Dr. Mommy Dentist

Tuesday, August 15, 2006

minimally invasive dentistry... where do i draw the line?

when a patient comes in and asks me "how long" something will last, i usually give them ballpark averages from what i've heard and read (ie. fillings about 5-7 years, crown and bridge about 7-10 years, etc) but i always give them the caveat that no matter how well any work is done, all of the materials we work with have a limited life span and that things may eventually wind up being replaced or repaired. in fact, about 95% of what i do is replacing and/or repairing old and failing work. the fact is once you open up a tooth, you are officially married to it (so at this point i can safely say that i have about 1000 husbands!) and it becomes your responsibility. the mouth is a very harsh place, and even the tightest margins can leak, the strongest porcelains may fracture, the most disinfected canals become re-contaminated. but it never ceases to amaze me - how some of the most pristine, carefully executed work can fail, and yet some of the crap that passes for clincially acceptable by some standards has managed to last all these years. go figure.

take today, for example. about 2 months ago i did some restos on a guy, about college age. he had kissing cavities on #37 M and #36 D, just at the DEJ. could they have remineralized with some fluoride and floss? possibly, some may argue. but the guy's oral hygiene was absolutely abysmal and they looked quite broad inciso-gingivally on the radiographs, that something told me to go ahead and do them. i pulled out all the stops - rubber dam isolation (because yes, i do use them, especially when placing posterior resins), very conservative slot preparations, two step clearfil prime and bond system, beautiful margins, perfect occlusion, all good to go, right? nope, guy's been sensitive to biting ever since i touched the damned teeth so there was nothing left to do except remove the fillings today and place IRM. it broke my heart to remove all of my hard work, and it was so well-done (and i don't often pat myself on the back, either) but he was just not comfortable and when that happens, the treatment has failed. i worked on those teeth, they are now my babies. but what was i to do at that time? leave the asymptomatic caries there and allow them to potentially get worse? or "fix" the teeth but potentially cause him discomfort and/or inconvenience?

and then here's the real kicker - new patient walks in just a few hours later, HUGE amalgam overhang on #25 D, as if the dentist didn't even use a matrix band, and it has an associated localized perio defect. the tooth is completely asymptomatic, just "bleeds a little when i floss". not even noticed by the patient until i point it out. how the hell does this happen??? how does such negligence go undetected? and why is my hard work "cursed" with problems while this guy can get away with something like that? why, why, WHY???

it feels like no matter how hard one may try, dentistry is just not an exact science. i guess that's what can be so frustrating sometimes. you try to do good work , and in the end it just so happens that you can make seemingly okay situation worse. so when patients ask me to guarantee my work, i simply say, "the only tooth i can guarantee is the one a dentist has NOT worked on, so you better take care of the ones you got." and that is why i definitely espouse the philosphy of minimally invasive dentistry. my question is, though, when do you cross the line from a conservative approach to supervised neglect? how can you distinguish the two? what do you treat, and what can you leave alone? what is more harmful?

man, i wish i had an office job....

7 Comments:

  • Are you sure your curing light is outputting properly?

    Supervised neglect is a tough subject. In my practice, I weigh a couple of things before deciding on yes or no to treatment. Foremost, if clinical signs and symptoms of pathosis are evident, something needs to be done. Leaving lesions that you know will worsen is neglect.

    If the patient is asymptomatic, and whatever lesion you are looking at has the potential to reverse or remain stable (ie apical scars or healing apical areas, incipient caries) the impetus to treat isn't as strong. Informing the patient and monitoring might not be a bad idea.

    Secondly, for any of the above situations, if the risks of a particular type of treatment outweigh potential benefits (either by prognostic odds or medical/dental considerations) alternative treatments or monitoring until things worsen might be better. This obviously needs to be meticulously documented and explained to the patient.

    By Blogger Unknown, At Wednesday, August 16, 2006  

  • hi!!! I'm back! I missed much of your material but have back read your entries and am now up to speed again. I love the pic of you and cookie puss ... sooo cute!!! LOL she *had* to drop the jar didn't she?

    I forgot to add last time that your mutant power could be to restore teeth back to their original states... or to regrow teeth from stem cells !

    I know what you mean about the whole dentistry thing. The old retired dentist whose position I took over in the last country town I was at, would explain to patients he preferred them to travel to see the specialist for RCTs however, most were hard working farmers who couldn't leave the farm for the 6 hours round trip plus treatment time it would take to reach sydney. Hence, he ended up trying to save most of them and amazingly, a large majority worked, even some that he could only find two! canals in an upper 6. So go figure ...

    I read your previous feelings about amalgam and despite the undeniable fact that they do cause cracked cusps and sometimes even cracked tooth syndromes, a recent journal published by the ADJ revealed that composites last an average of only 7 years after which they had to be replaced most often due to recurrent caries, yet amalgams last an average of 14 years, and mostly have to be replaced due to a cusp cracking off... hence, I explain this to the patients and put the impetus on them to decide. Also, when it happens (whatever fate) it doesn't come as a surprise to them. If they choose composites, I explain that flossing daily will definitely help and make them solomnly promise to undertake that to help their fillings last longer ;)

    By Blogger Rachel, At Tuesday, August 22, 2006  

  • P/S you look a bit young to be a DDS! much less a mommy!! LOL although from what I guess from your years of experience, you are probably around my age. I don't look as well groomed though ...

    Alot of people probably underestimate your intelligence and expertise because you look young and beautiful hehe

    By Blogger Rachel, At Tuesday, August 22, 2006  

  • Have you placed a lining such as Vitrebond? I do get the occassional sensitivity after placing composite but it usually goes away after a few weeks.
    If it's incipient caries I'll get the patient to use Toothmousse and stress the importance of oral hygiene and get them to come back for regular check up.

    By Blogger Dentist Down Under, At Tuesday, August 22, 2006  

  • Oh and I always tell them nothing in dentistry last forever (to cover my ass :p) especially when it comes to MODBL/P restos, and the anterior ones with incisal involvement, I won't even guarantee they'll last more than a week ;p you just dunno what they bite into.

    By Blogger Dentist Down Under, At Tuesday, August 22, 2006  

  • ameloblast - funny you mention the curing thing, because today my light crapped out on me. but i noticed it when the resin left a really gummy residue as i was polishing. i used a different light in a different op, though, and i didn't notice that problem with the other resins i placed. either way, i'm ordering a new light.

    DDU, i do use vitrebond, but these particular cavities were pretty shallow so i thought the two step system with two coats of primer would be sufficient. perhaps because they may have been right at the DEJ the patient had some sensitivity. that's my suspicion.

    rachel - amalgams do last a lot longer than composites, but you can be a heck of a lot more conservative with composite resin. remember G.V. Black's "extension for prevention" rule ;-) i also find that when i see recurrent caries on resins if it's localized, all you need to do is touch up the area if the remaining composite is sound, while with amalgam most of the time you have to remove the entire filling to replace it. the new generations of resins are much longer lasting and i really try to isolate well, do incremental placement, and very thorough polishing to try to minimize leakage. since i've only been out a few years, i have a ways to go before i pass the 7 year mark, but i'm just going by the existing older resins that i have repaired/replaced.

    By Blogger Dr. Mommy, D.D.S., At Friday, August 25, 2006  

  • Doing dental services is never easy. I remember going to a Crown and Bridge Specialist, I really had a hard time there.

    By Blogger Unknown, At Thursday, October 22, 2009  

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