case from HELL, why why why???
had a really difficult case last friday that i worked overtime to complete. about two weeks ago, a woman in her late 50's came into the office with a loose bridge 11-12-13-14-15 (pontics in pink). she's had the bridge for about 20 years. the abutments 11 and 13 were completely rotted out so that when the bridge was seated there was about a 5 mm gap between the margin of the crowns and the edge of the tooth, #11 had a periapical lesion and both had caries near the level of the bone and would probably require crown lengthening. #15 was actually in pretty good condition, the only tooth physically holding the bridge in place. she was squeezed into my schedule as an emerg recement, so i had about 15 minutes with her. i scooped out the caries from 11 and 13, cemented the bridge back onto 15 with rely-x (and that was the only tooth holding the damn thing in place) and basically gave her the ideal treatment options. a) extract the teeth and get a partial denture (keeping #15) or b) extract the teeth and get an implant supported bridge. note how the word "extract" is repeated in this conversation. now, she has no insurance and wanted a "quick fix". since so much decay had obliterated #11 and #13 and they could no longer support the exisiting bridge, the only "quick fix" option would be to root canal those teeth, place a post and core, and retrofit the bridge she had, since it was not worth it to make a new one with such poor-guarded prognosed teeth. i knew this was going to be a beast of a case, but i felt obligated to present her with all the options, the good, the bad, and the ugly and i wanted to help her out. i repeatedly told her that this was extremely short term, who knows how long it would last, very limited prognosis, yadda yadda yadda. no, no, please just save the bridge.
so she came back a week later, and lo and behold, the bridge was still on there, wobbling around but permanently cemented to #15. i couldn't remove it with a hemostat, so i had to tap the thing off, took me a bloody half an hour to do so i was almost ready to cut this damn thing off. lo and behold, poor oral hygiene and the gingiva had grown over the root tips. how the hell am i supposed to access these teeth for root canal with all that gum tissue in the way? answer - gingivectomy! of course, this office doesn't have an electrosurge machine, so i performed the gingivectomy old school with a scalpel and fine diamond burs. so much freakin' blood everywhere, it took a galloon of hemodent and multiple papillary epinepherine injections to stop the bleeding to i could proceed with the RCT. and forget about putting a rubber dam on these babies, there was abolutely nothing to grab onto. why why why did i do this to myself? so i instrumented these horribly calcified canals to a #40 file (too small for teeth that size), irrigated with copious NaOCl and EDTA, obturated the teeth (lateral condensation), and managed to squeeze in well fitting titanium posts in both #11 and #13. next, bring on the Ti-Core, pounds of it, and i just went to town. the #13 fit like a glove, but there was so much loss of tooth structure from caries on #11 that i had to fill in the remaining gaps with ti-core, and i even ran out! i had to order more and bring her in to fill in the distal portion of #11. four hours later, the whole shebang was permanently cemented with rely-x and the patient is asymptomatic and pain free, so far the bridge is holding tight and she's eating like a champ but for who knows how long? and here's the thing that really miffed me: i had to charge her for the two root canals, the posts, and the core build-ups (never mind the surprise gingivectomies, those were on the house) which added up to about $1400. she came prepared to pay over $1800 in CASH (estimate error from the front desk) and i was like, if you had that much cash on you, enough to pay for at least IMPLANT SURGERY or a DENTURE, why the hell are you shelling out all this money for treatment that won't last? i mean, i did the best job i possibly could, and i even had a lengthly discussion about this with her and her family (nicely, of course) and i felt so bad i cut her an additional 25% break. what was she thinking? what was i thinking? am i on crack for taking on such a thing? or was i really helping this person out? what will happen when this thing fails? i can't say "i told you so" and i don't know how i can patch this up anymore than i already did. why don't people listen? and why am i such a sucker?
so she came back a week later, and lo and behold, the bridge was still on there, wobbling around but permanently cemented to #15. i couldn't remove it with a hemostat, so i had to tap the thing off, took me a bloody half an hour to do so i was almost ready to cut this damn thing off. lo and behold, poor oral hygiene and the gingiva had grown over the root tips. how the hell am i supposed to access these teeth for root canal with all that gum tissue in the way? answer - gingivectomy! of course, this office doesn't have an electrosurge machine, so i performed the gingivectomy old school with a scalpel and fine diamond burs. so much freakin' blood everywhere, it took a galloon of hemodent and multiple papillary epinepherine injections to stop the bleeding to i could proceed with the RCT. and forget about putting a rubber dam on these babies, there was abolutely nothing to grab onto. why why why did i do this to myself? so i instrumented these horribly calcified canals to a #40 file (too small for teeth that size), irrigated with copious NaOCl and EDTA, obturated the teeth (lateral condensation), and managed to squeeze in well fitting titanium posts in both #11 and #13. next, bring on the Ti-Core, pounds of it, and i just went to town. the #13 fit like a glove, but there was so much loss of tooth structure from caries on #11 that i had to fill in the remaining gaps with ti-core, and i even ran out! i had to order more and bring her in to fill in the distal portion of #11. four hours later, the whole shebang was permanently cemented with rely-x and the patient is asymptomatic and pain free, so far the bridge is holding tight and she's eating like a champ but for who knows how long? and here's the thing that really miffed me: i had to charge her for the two root canals, the posts, and the core build-ups (never mind the surprise gingivectomies, those were on the house) which added up to about $1400. she came prepared to pay over $1800 in CASH (estimate error from the front desk) and i was like, if you had that much cash on you, enough to pay for at least IMPLANT SURGERY or a DENTURE, why the hell are you shelling out all this money for treatment that won't last? i mean, i did the best job i possibly could, and i even had a lengthly discussion about this with her and her family (nicely, of course) and i felt so bad i cut her an additional 25% break. what was she thinking? what was i thinking? am i on crack for taking on such a thing? or was i really helping this person out? what will happen when this thing fails? i can't say "i told you so" and i don't know how i can patch this up anymore than i already did. why don't people listen? and why am i such a sucker?
3 Comments:
You never know, the work might last five years or more. As long as you've covered your butt...
By Unknown, At Thursday, September 14, 2006
Hey Doc mommy, some patients get so emotionally attached to their existing fixed appliance that they are unable to fathom life with anything else. To her, the service you provided her was priceless. She might have decided to dig even deeper than she could have really afforded to pay for your work.
Kudos to you for trying something unprecedented. That is REAL dentistry... being innovative and working with what you have. The stress might not have been worth it at the time but I am sure this will help you stress to anyone else in a similar situation that saving the bridge is unfortunately not in any way even a mid term option. IMHO any patient who opts for a bridge needs to pass a test in using superfloss and interdental brushes uner the bridge.
We don't have stuff like ti-core here ... what is it?
By Rachel, At Thursday, September 14, 2006
ti-core is composite core-buildup material that is reinforced with titanium particles. it comes in two colors, traditional "silver" or white/opaque, depending on where you want to use it (like if you're doing a porcelain jacket crown on a 11, the white core has better esthetics). it's a two paste system that is mixed up and is self-curing. really nice stuff, also acts as a great restorative material for large fillings that really need crowns (but patients don't want to pay for one). i use the silver ti-core in that case so that they can see how huge and ugly the filling really is and they can be like "gad, maybe i really do need a crown!"
oh, have you ever used miracle mix? that stuff's awesome!
By Dr. Mommy, D.D.S., At Thursday, September 14, 2006
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